https://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/legends-of-vinyl-lov-crooksland-disco.html
BETRAYAL !!
of my USA disco era pioneer DJ friend Tom Savarese
the trick is ...
they use well known disco era
artist and deejay names
to steal fame of and put on them ?
|
LOV - cheap plastic plate politic
leading / aimed to "mental corruption" in the history of disco & DJ
leading / aimed to "mental corruption" in the history of disco & DJ
… MY CORRESPONDENCE WITH TOM 'traitor' SAVARESE
who accept 'LOV' cheap plastic plate and agreed same way to support disco
and dj history crooks / swindlers to create fake DISCO history – IN SILENCE !!
!? WHO IS TOM 'traitor' SAVARESE:
http://tomsavarese.blogspot.com/2013/04/what-wrong-happend-to-tom-savarse-in.html?zx=f367e1597574616c
LETTER NO - 1
Jan Yahu Pawul [ yahudeejay ]
2 JULY - 2018 - 00:32
Your name on LOV advert (above pix) this year.
Do you collaborate with these crooks, disco / dj criminalist ?
- or they use your name to steal fame of you and put on them ?
____________________________
Jan Yahu Pawul [yahudeejay]
real pioneer deejay of very early '70, writer,
proud "Disco DJ's Hall of Fame" member,
- - - - - - - - >> disco & deejay historian:
http://1952yahudeejay1970.blogspot.com/
* giant eBooks author:
1/
"Silent Records" - worlwide disco & deejay history in english:
http://disco-dj-history.blogspot.com/
2/
"Discjockey" - polish disco & deejay history in polish
- historia polskich dyskotek i deejayów:
http://discjockey-discjockey.blogspot.com/
3/
"Deejay's" - story of German techno deejays in english:
http://deejays-dj.blogspot.com/
4/
book I wrote in early '90
"MODELKA" - poradnik zawodowy dla modelek
- handbook for professional models:
http://modelkimody.blogspot.com/
https://www.facebook.com/yahu.pawul
https://twitter.com/YahuPawul?lang=en
https://www.blogger.com/profile/17285858304639530388
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JanYahuPawulyahudeejay70
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yahu+pawul
https://www.ebay.pl/str/otrogroup
wywiad: https://discjockey-discjockey.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
LETTER NO - 2
yahuDJ
Jan Yahu Pawul [ yahudeejay ]
2 JULY - 2018 - 00:32
Your name on LOV advert (above pix) this year.
Do you collaborate with these crooks, disco / dj criminalist ?
- or they use your name to steal fame of you and put on them ?
____________________________
Jan Yahu Pawul [yahudeejay]
real pioneer deejay of very early '70, writer,
proud "Disco DJ's Hall of Fame" member,
- - - - - - - - >> disco & deejay historian:
http://1952yahudeejay1970.blogspot.com/
* giant eBooks author:
1/
"Silent Records" - worlwide disco & deejay history in english:
http://disco-dj-history.blogspot.com/
2/
"Discjockey" - polish disco & deejay history in polish
- historia polskich dyskotek i deejayów:
http://discjockey-discjockey.blogspot.com/
3/
"Deejay's" - story of German techno deejays in english:
http://deejays-dj.blogspot.com/
4/
book I wrote in early '90
"MODELKA" - poradnik zawodowy dla modelek
- handbook for professional models:
http://modelkimody.blogspot.com/
https://www.facebook.com/yahu.pawul
https://twitter.com/YahuPawul?lang=en
https://www.blogger.com/profile/17285858304639530388
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JanYahuPawulyahudeejay70
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yahu+pawul
https://www.ebay.pl/str/otrogroup
wywiad: https://discjockey-discjockey.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
LETTER NO - 2
Tom Savarese-gmail.com
2 JULY - 2018 - 03:27
They decided as you can see from the attachment *.docx. And yes it is probably to benefit LOV status, because the last thing I need is another award, although when you have your next dream sequence you can put your name on this one too. (Just kidding, really!)
There are certain awards given people that do really matter. This is not one of them I am afraid, however!
They are going to mail it to me. They can’t spring for a ticket or hotel because they are non-profit.
I graciously accepted and I know what this is all about too. Orellana wants his group to live forever and you must admit they are relentless in their pursuit. I figure I am seventy five they can give me what they want, everything except a disease. Poverty I already have.
I appreciate your vigilance; I am sure Chatman is just tweaked by this. Both of you hate these people but they do have Caviano and La Rue and many others notables from that time period. What period was that?
I don’t know any of the principals of this organization but I do know Caviano and a few others. Go figure.
I think they think that using my name will fill the place but I won’t be there.
From: Luis Mario Orellana [mailto:luismariodj@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:50 PM
To: tasavarese@cableone.net
Subject: Legends of Vinyl 2018 Awards Invitation
Dear Tom, on behalf of the Legends of Vinyl Officers, Board of Directors, and Administration, I am pleased to inform you that you have been selected as an award recipient at our 2018 New York DJ/Artists Hall of Fame awards ceremony.
Please find attached the formal invitation for you to RSVP.
Sincerely,
Luis Mario Orellana
Founder of Legends of Vinyl™LLC
Legends of Vinyl DJ/Artists Hall of Fame
www.legendsofvinyl.com – luismariodj@comcast.net
954.979.4493 – 954.295.5919
LETTER NO - 3
2 JULY - 2018 - 03:27
They decided as you can see from the attachment *.docx. And yes it is probably to benefit LOV status, because the last thing I need is another award, although when you have your next dream sequence you can put your name on this one too. (Just kidding, really!)
There are certain awards given people that do really matter. This is not one of them I am afraid, however!
They are going to mail it to me. They can’t spring for a ticket or hotel because they are non-profit.
I graciously accepted and I know what this is all about too. Orellana wants his group to live forever and you must admit they are relentless in their pursuit. I figure I am seventy five they can give me what they want, everything except a disease. Poverty I already have.
I appreciate your vigilance; I am sure Chatman is just tweaked by this. Both of you hate these people but they do have Caviano and La Rue and many others notables from that time period. What period was that?
I don’t know any of the principals of this organization but I do know Caviano and a few others. Go figure.
I think they think that using my name will fill the place but I won’t be there.
From: Luis Mario Orellana [mailto:luismariodj@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:50 PM
To: tasavarese@cableone.net
Subject: Legends of Vinyl 2018 Awards Invitation
Dear Tom, on behalf of the Legends of Vinyl Officers, Board of Directors, and Administration, I am pleased to inform you that you have been selected as an award recipient at our 2018 New York DJ/Artists Hall of Fame awards ceremony.
Please find attached the formal invitation for you to RSVP.
Sincerely,
Luis Mario Orellana
Founder of Legends of Vinyl™LLC
Legends of Vinyl DJ/Artists Hall of Fame
www.legendsofvinyl.com – luismariodj@comcast.net
954.979.4493 – 954.295.5919
... CLICK ON THE PIX TO ENLARGE ...
Jan Yahu Pawul [ yahudeejay ]
2 JULY - 2018 - 07:36
thank you for answer Tom
I never ever expect YOU - "I graciously accepted and I know what this is all about too."
You know very good what they did (my blog is all about) and you ACCEPT. They are dirty as hell on the ground when they took of Marty real list first and original DJ Hall of Fame and did so cruel illegal changes - harm me sooooo much !! - harm Marty because finally he agreed with me - they cheated him for piece of plastic crap.
You know my story / affair with them of many years and you decided to "sell me out". I mean you can do what you like but looks like my last USA DJ friend "sold me" for piece of crap plastic plate of disco and DJ history crooks !!
Well, looks like no one care real history and crooks + their collaborators can and do change all for fake …
Jackie McCloy and Marty Angelo try to defense me against LOV - Marty - as you can read - did very strong way - but they do not like him anymore same as me. Jackie informed The Library of Congress about all illegal tricks, falsifications and crime they do against disco & DJ history - and The Library of Congress removed them !
LETTER NO - 4
2 JULY - 2018 - 07:36
thank you for answer Tom
I never ever expect YOU - "I graciously accepted and I know what this is all about too."
You know very good what they did (my blog is all about) and you ACCEPT. They are dirty as hell on the ground when they took of Marty real list first and original DJ Hall of Fame and did so cruel illegal changes - harm me sooooo much !! - harm Marty because finally he agreed with me - they cheated him for piece of plastic crap.
You know my story / affair with them of many years and you decided to "sell me out". I mean you can do what you like but looks like my last USA DJ friend "sold me" for piece of crap plastic plate of disco and DJ history crooks !!
Well, looks like no one care real history and crooks + their collaborators can and do change all for fake …
Jackie McCloy and Marty Angelo try to defense me against LOV - Marty - as you can read - did very strong way - but they do not like him anymore same as me. Jackie informed The Library of Congress about all illegal tricks, falsifications and crime they do against disco & DJ history - and The Library of Congress removed them !
LETTER NO - 4
Tom Savarese-gmail.com
2 JULY - 2018 - 15:02
I didn’t sell anyone out. But if that is what you think I am sorry. I accepted the plastic but I am tired of fighting with all you people about what you think is right and correct. History will write its own story. It is all fake…it’s all business as they say. Nobody cares about any of us. And I never did anything to you. They probably don’t like anybody that doesn’t agree with their agenda.
You just took a ride.
Sorry about Marty Angelo. I don’t want to hear another word about this topic.
Your story has been told down through time itself… it’s the same story over and over again. I am sorry if they hurt you; not my fault at all.
They do change history and everybody does from the presidents of countries to religious leaders. C’mon…what does it matter in the real run of life. I have heard time and time again from you about how BAD these people are? You always feel people are doing something to you…they do it to everybody.
Marty Angelo knows who he is and what he has done. You should also know what you have done too.
End.
Thank you.
LETTER NO - 5
2 JULY - 2018 - 15:02
I didn’t sell anyone out. But if that is what you think I am sorry. I accepted the plastic but I am tired of fighting with all you people about what you think is right and correct. History will write its own story. It is all fake…it’s all business as they say. Nobody cares about any of us. And I never did anything to you. They probably don’t like anybody that doesn’t agree with their agenda.
You just took a ride.
Sorry about Marty Angelo. I don’t want to hear another word about this topic.
Your story has been told down through time itself… it’s the same story over and over again. I am sorry if they hurt you; not my fault at all.
They do change history and everybody does from the presidents of countries to religious leaders. C’mon…what does it matter in the real run of life. I have heard time and time again from you about how BAD these people are? You always feel people are doing something to you…they do it to everybody.
Marty Angelo knows who he is and what he has done. You should also know what you have done too.
End.
Thank you.
LETTER NO - 5
Jan Yahu Pawul [ yahudeejay ]
3 JULY 2018 - 10:08
OK but I do not agree crooks whose want to lie and decide what is true what is lie. I try to save real disco history as it was in '70.
Many of us died and LOV propaganda + cheap plastic plates change our history and expect no one protest. People as you or me should protest - not agree for lies and fake history !! People with honour should send them back these cheap plastic plates and refuse collaboration against how they full us up !! I know very good they did crime move against me BUT by this wrong move they attack whole history and many people recognise this fact - people like Jackie McCloy, Marty Angelo, etc - visible here: http://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/real-disco-pioneers-vs-legends-of-vinyl.html
It would be great to put your name / add your name to this list on the top whose are against LOV crooks and fake disco-dj history creation. But as for today you agree with them more than against crime they do !
CHECK HOW JACKIE (ONE OF THEIR DIRECTORS) AGAINST THEM.
Marty Angelo strong defend me and real . true disco & DJ history.
Check his website / original DJ Hall of Fame: http://www.martyangelo.com/discodjhalloffame.htm
BUT PAIN FOR ME IS - IF YOU AGREE WITH THEM / ACCEPT - INSTEAD OF REFUSE, CRITICISE OPEN WAY AND POINT THEM MY CASE THEY DID !
People / disco pioneers with honor should refuse collaboration to ‘lov’ crooks / swindlers and send them back their cheap plastic plate.
yahuDJ
HOW IS GOING TOM YOUR COLLABORATION WITH THESE CROOKS CRIMINALS
CONSIDER GIG LINK-PICTURE BELOW WITH YOUR NAME ON IT
http://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/lov-cheap-plastic-plate-politic-leading.html
Tom Savarese
No collaboration at all.
yahuDJ
your name on the poster !
BUT you do not accept their cheap plastic plate ??
Should I change my blog info about you and LOV ?
You know I did not like idea Tom Savarese on LOV cheap plastic plate :-) - because they / LOV-orellana and his "directors" are hell crooks
Tom Savarese
I have gotten nothing from them. Your opinion is yours…you don’t have to change a thing! I am sorry you do not like it. It costs nothing to me at this point of my life. Everybody is a crook so it seems. They can’t steal anything from me. The use of my name?...so what, you used it too.
Don’t worry about it. This conversation about LOV is over… we move on!
yahuDJ
but they are crooks, swindlers whose create false disco and dj history and hurt a lot of pioneers - check my blog ... they use your name to build fake glory for themselves - me I use your name to save disco history - small difference
Tom Savarese
They have no glory…they are living in the past and in a world that people care nothing about the djs of that era or disco itself. The real truth has a way of coming to the surface on its own. Some time it takes a while. Denise Chatman hates LOV too for reasons I don’t remember!
3 JULY 2018 - 10:08
OK but I do not agree crooks whose want to lie and decide what is true what is lie. I try to save real disco history as it was in '70.
Many of us died and LOV propaganda + cheap plastic plates change our history and expect no one protest. People as you or me should protest - not agree for lies and fake history !! People with honour should send them back these cheap plastic plates and refuse collaboration against how they full us up !! I know very good they did crime move against me BUT by this wrong move they attack whole history and many people recognise this fact - people like Jackie McCloy, Marty Angelo, etc - visible here: http://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/real-disco-pioneers-vs-legends-of-vinyl.html
It would be great to put your name / add your name to this list on the top whose are against LOV crooks and fake disco-dj history creation. But as for today you agree with them more than against crime they do !
CHECK HOW JACKIE (ONE OF THEIR DIRECTORS) AGAINST THEM.
Marty Angelo strong defend me and real . true disco & DJ history.
Check his website / original DJ Hall of Fame: http://www.martyangelo.com/discodjhalloffame.htm
BUT PAIN FOR ME IS - IF YOU AGREE WITH THEM / ACCEPT - INSTEAD OF REFUSE, CRITICISE OPEN WAY AND POINT THEM MY CASE THEY DID !
People / disco pioneers with honor should refuse collaboration to ‘lov’ crooks / swindlers and send them back their cheap plastic plate.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MY LAST CONTACT TO TOM 'traitor' SAVARESE WHO TURN INTO DISCO HISTORY-CROOKS-SWINDLERS COLLABORATOR ON THE END OF HIS GREAT DISCO-DJ LIFE, UNFORTUNATELLY !!
(9-10 september 2018)
(9-10 september 2018)
yahuDJ
HOW IS GOING TOM YOUR COLLABORATION WITH THESE CROOKS CRIMINALS
CONSIDER GIG LINK-PICTURE BELOW WITH YOUR NAME ON IT
http://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/lov-cheap-plastic-plate-politic-leading.html
Tom Savarese
No collaboration at all.
yahuDJ
your name on the poster !
BUT you do not accept their cheap plastic plate ??
Should I change my blog info about you and LOV ?
You know I did not like idea Tom Savarese on LOV cheap plastic plate :-) - because they / LOV-orellana and his "directors" are hell crooks
Tom Savarese
I have gotten nothing from them. Your opinion is yours…you don’t have to change a thing! I am sorry you do not like it. It costs nothing to me at this point of my life. Everybody is a crook so it seems. They can’t steal anything from me. The use of my name?...so what, you used it too.
Don’t worry about it. This conversation about LOV is over… we move on!
yahuDJ
but they are crooks, swindlers whose create false disco and dj history and hurt a lot of pioneers - check my blog ... they use your name to build fake glory for themselves - me I use your name to save disco history - small difference
Tom Savarese
They have no glory…they are living in the past and in a world that people care nothing about the djs of that era or disco itself. The real truth has a way of coming to the surface on its own. Some time it takes a while. Denise Chatman hates LOV too for reasons I don’t remember!
yahuDJ
many people hurt by LOV - orellana
I was first one
and that was total strange for me when you agreed to collaborate with them. 18th of september in NYC they "honoree" you by their cheap plastic plate + some other naive whose do not care LOV-orellana do mess and crime in disco history.
I was first one
and that was total strange for me when you agreed to collaborate with them. 18th of september in NYC they "honoree" you by their cheap plastic plate + some other naive whose do not care LOV-orellana do mess and crime in disco history.
Tom Savarese
Stop.
yahuDJ
OK I do stop
last words in our over 10 years cooperation:
Stop.
yahuDJ
OK I do stop
last words in our over 10 years cooperation:
sad is you and a few other disco pioneers end as crooks collaborator ! your good fame going down ...
I mean you do not protest against them and fight against them for truth as Marty Angelo or Jackie McCloy and many other visible on my blog. You DO(!) - accept cheap plastic plate of criminals and crooks ...
check my dear readers what Tom wrote to me a few months earlier
- compare to above it looks like terribly false / fake person - or what?!
read more:
I mean you do not protest against them and fight against them for truth as Marty Angelo or Jackie McCloy and many other visible on my blog. You DO(!) - accept cheap plastic plate of criminals and crooks ...
BETRAYAL !!
check my dear readers what Tom wrote to me a few months earlier
- compare to above it looks like terribly false / fake person - or what?!
read more:
http://tomsavarese.blogspot.com/
+
https://www.google.pl/search?q=tom+savarese&rlz=1C1AOHY_plPL708PL708&oq=tom+savarese&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65j0l2j69i65l2.13262j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
AUTHOR:
It is total-max-dishonor to be part of / or collaborate any way to crooks, swindlers of 'legends of vinyl' !!
last correspondence on this affair:
They DO sell heart and soul for piece of fame echo …
I asked question to Tom Savarese, because he accepted to be part of the LUIS ORELLANA 'legends of vinyl' affair 2018:
from:yahuDJ
for:Tom Savarese
date:25 sept 2018, 01:48
-did you got you crap, plastic plaque of 'legends of vinyl' crooks Tom ? send me picture, please :-)
-did you met them / crooks, swindlers face to face ? I do not see you on pictures of the "party".
-or they will send you crap-plaque by post ?
I lived oppressive communist regime back in early '70 Poland - when popularise American music was reason to die of Secret Political Police hands, because deejay work was total against communist ideology and “destroy” young people mentality. Well, but I was hard interested about USA and UK deejays, artists, music, contacts, cooperation and I red about you Tom but never ever single word about orellana. As Denise wrote to me "he was poor deejay back then but he was as many other at low level and she served her Salsoul records same as to you or me.
I do not want you " I cannot be angry at someone because other people are." Not this way Tom.
Other people angry on him because he harmed them unnecessarily in a very stupid way!
See how much public opinion damage I did against him and 'LOV' publish "truth behind the scene" - because he attack me and removed DJ Hall of Fame he even not created. He got 'list' from Marty under precise conditions and broke rules / agreement. Such kind of people are worse on planet Earth. They are trouble makers / create problems among us - conflicts and wars ...
He did what I publish on my blog clear as facts and this is the reason to not like, respect and not cooperate with him smallest way !
It is max strange for me all those deejays, artists go as deaf and blind along with him (I informed all of them many times about affair he did) and they accept his worthy nothing plastic crap, cheap plaques instead of tell him - OK jerk - we understand your plans and dreams BUT first do clear situation / dirt you did so much to other pioneers.
Not many react like this, I mean proper way ...
People like them / same mentality supported Adolf Hitler in '30 Germany or Josef Stalin in '40 East Europe. Germans did not care about Jude tragedy because of egoist reason - same repeated communist area under Stalin murder-regime. Orellana and 'LOV' not the same ofcourse. They are not mass killers BUT precise same primitive, egoist, stupid mentality tolerate wrong / evil !!
They (first of all) SECOND OR 5TH LIGUE OF DISCO ERA PIONEERS - and they are sick of public attention, echo of the fame or something. They think maybe come back to the market. Forget it. They all are past / history and decided to put dirt on their biography by collaboration with this 'LOV' crooks, swindlers ... They ready to sell, heart and soul for piece of fame echo !! They are people without honor today - egoists with nose still up in the clouds whose were part of great in the disco era but are part of total sh*t today and what I save and publish worldwide this way for good: http://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_18.html
A lot of disco era stars / pioneers (FIRST LIGUE) are high level honor people
and do not collaborate with orellana-'LOV':
* Nile Rogers do not (opposite to his background singing chicas of the past)
* Tom Moulton do not
* Nicky Siano do not
* Grace Jones do not
* Valerie Simpson
* Chaka Khan do not
* Jackson family artists do not
* Diana Ross do not
... just mention a few
+
https://www.google.pl/search?q=tom+savarese&rlz=1C1AOHY_plPL708PL708&oq=tom+savarese&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65j0l2j69i65l2.13262j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
AUTHOR:
* an real first generation disco pioneer discjockey
... better !!
- I was a DJ in early '70
- before there were NO discotheques even
and disco DJ profession :-))))
author / disco & DJ historian
It is total-max-dishonor to be part of / or collaborate any way to crooks, swindlers of 'legends of vinyl' !!
last correspondence on this affair:
They DO sell heart and soul for piece of fame echo …
- my correspondence with real and great disco era star deejay Tom Savarese -
I asked question to Tom Savarese, because he accepted to be part of the LUIS ORELLANA 'legends of vinyl' affair 2018:
from:yahuDJ
for:Tom Savarese
date:25 sept 2018, 01:48
-did you got you crap, plastic plaque of 'legends of vinyl' crooks Tom ? send me picture, please :-)
-did you met them / crooks, swindlers face to face ? I do not see you on pictures of the "party".
-or they will send you crap-plaque by post ?
... CLICK ON THE PIX TO ENLARGE ...
They DO sell heart and soul for piece of fame echo …
- my correspondence with real and great disco era star deejay Tom Savarese -
I lived oppressive communist regime back in early '70 Poland - when popularise American music was reason to die of Secret Political Police hands, because deejay work was total against communist ideology and “destroy” young people mentality. Well, but I was hard interested about USA and UK deejays, artists, music, contacts, cooperation and I red about you Tom but never ever single word about orellana. As Denise wrote to me "he was poor deejay back then but he was as many other at low level and she served her Salsoul records same as to you or me.
I do not want you " I cannot be angry at someone because other people are." Not this way Tom.
Other people angry on him because he harmed them unnecessarily in a very stupid way!
See how much public opinion damage I did against him and 'LOV' publish "truth behind the scene" - because he attack me and removed DJ Hall of Fame he even not created. He got 'list' from Marty under precise conditions and broke rules / agreement. Such kind of people are worse on planet Earth. They are trouble makers / create problems among us - conflicts and wars ...
He did what I publish on my blog clear as facts and this is the reason to not like, respect and not cooperate with him smallest way !
It is max strange for me all those deejays, artists go as deaf and blind along with him (I informed all of them many times about affair he did) and they accept his worthy nothing plastic crap, cheap plaques instead of tell him - OK jerk - we understand your plans and dreams BUT first do clear situation / dirt you did so much to other pioneers.
Not many react like this, I mean proper way ...
People like them / same mentality supported Adolf Hitler in '30 Germany or Josef Stalin in '40 East Europe. Germans did not care about Jude tragedy because of egoist reason - same repeated communist area under Stalin murder-regime. Orellana and 'LOV' not the same ofcourse. They are not mass killers BUT precise same primitive, egoist, stupid mentality tolerate wrong / evil !!
They (first of all) SECOND OR 5TH LIGUE OF DISCO ERA PIONEERS - and they are sick of public attention, echo of the fame or something. They think maybe come back to the market. Forget it. They all are past / history and decided to put dirt on their biography by collaboration with this 'LOV' crooks, swindlers ... They ready to sell, heart and soul for piece of fame echo !! They are people without honor today - egoists with nose still up in the clouds whose were part of great in the disco era but are part of total sh*t today and what I save and publish worldwide this way for good: http://legends-of-dj.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_18.html
A lot of disco era stars / pioneers (FIRST LIGUE) are high level honor people
and do not collaborate with orellana-'LOV':
* Nile Rogers do not (opposite to his background singing chicas of the past)
* Tom Moulton do not
* Nicky Siano do not
* Grace Jones do not
* Valerie Simpson
* Chaka Khan do not
* Jackson family artists do not
* Diana Ross do not
... just mention a few
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